What one may see as new silos such as DevOps, DevSecOps, NetOps, SREs and so on, Joe Duffy, CEO of Pulumi, sees as opportunities, as problems that need to be solved by engineers. In this segment of To The Point, he talks about the ample career opportunities in the cloud-native space.

Guest: Joe Duffy (LinkedIn, Twitter)
Company: Pulumi (Twitter)
Show: To The Point

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Joe Duffy: Yeah. I think there’s a lot of… I don’t view the world in these silos. I really think of them as problems that we want to solve as engineers. Right? And so people naturally gravitate to problems that are more interesting to them. Some people really enjoy networking. Some people may be excited about the world moving to Kubernetes. Some people may be more excited about applications and maybe distributed microservices.

So I’d say, first pick that area that really excites you the most, but there’s a commonality amongst all of those. And to me, things like infrastructure is code, is common to all of these disciplines increasingly. If you’re just going to go be a full stack developer, 100% focused on JavaScript, maybe that’s not as exciting to you, but most folks that are building cloud software are going to care about infrastructures code.

And so interesting, I was talking to a friend of mine, who’s been in Ops for 20 years now. And he was saying, hey, I feel like I’m stagnating a little bit, so I’m going to go learn Python. And he’d never learned a programming language before, and that just unlocked a world of possibilities for him. So I would say, learn a programming language. I think that’s a key skill that no matter where you go, is going to serve you well.

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