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To Migrate Or Not To Migrate From Cloud Foundry To Kubernetes | Brian Seguin


Guest: Brian Seguin (LinkedIn)
Company: Qarik Group (Twitter)

Many companies are looking to migrate their workloads from the Cloud Foundry to Kubernetes. This is a huge undertaking, especially since it involves mission-critical applications. What does this mean for Cloud Foundry?

In this episode of TFiR Let’s Talk recorded at the KubeCon in Detroit, Swapnil Bhartiya sits down with Brian Seguin, Managing Director of Qarik Group, to discuss the state of Cloud Foundry and how Qarik is helping customers assess whether their applications and workloads are suited for Kubernetes.

Key highlights from this video interview:

  • Seguin says he has seen positive changes in the Cloud Foundry ecosystem. With the hype around Kubernetes, many have questions about migrating and what this could mean in terms of shifting the complexity to the developer in the deployment space.
  • 50% of Fortune 2000 companies with mission-critical workloads are using Cloud Foundry, so it is a massive effort to migrate these workloads. However, Cloud Foundry is very much here to stay. VMware will continue with releases for at least the next five years to allow people time to assess how to transition to Kubernetes.
  • Broadcom’s acquisition of VMware has raised concerns about maintaining mission-critical applications on top of Cloud Foundry platforms. Companies do have time to evaluate the workloads and to work out how to mimic some of the developer productivity and other toolchains that Cloud Foundry offers.
  • Seguin shares his insights into how companies can ensure a smooth transition. The first step is to document the metrics to establish a baseline. As high as 80% or more of the applications have been abandoned and do not have application teams assigned to them. From there, organizations can assess which workloads should stay on Cloud Foundry and which ones can move to Kubernetes or another infrastructure.
  • Sometimes, it is a case of just 20% of workloads that are key to the core business. Therefore, these are the ones that need to be upgraded and moved.
  • Seguin discusses how the lighthouse model can facilitate cross-pollination amongst teams: embedding people into their teams to identify what developers actually need and then spread new technologies and ideas throughout the organization.
  • Qarik helps increase developer productivity and accelerate the migration of workloads from the Cloud Foundry into Kubernetes. Since the Cloud Foundry has different deployment paradigms, they are using different tooling to create a single-pane-of-glass view inside of Kubernetes. Seguin explains how Qarik is helping customers map the right data to the business values to deliver a better business picture and give them a competitive advantage.

The summary of the show is written by Emily Nicholls.

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